Should Christians Obey and Follow Torah?

Dave Currier | Featured Guest Writer | Guest Writer | Torah | Torah 101
Noel Joshua Hadley

Little children, let no man deceive you. He that doeth righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous

1 John 3:7

Q&A with Yeshua

Q: Yeshua, in the beginning you co-authored “The Law” with our Father in Heaven, Yahuah. Is that right?

Y: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

Q: So, when you came to Earth, did you abolish the law?

Y: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

 

Q: So, by ‘fulfilling’ the Law, you mean, you abolished it, right? So we don’t have to do the commands in Torah?

Y: … Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law…

 

Q: Seriously though, everyone says the Law isn’t for Christians except for you! What gives?

Y: For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Q: OK, ok, but I’m stubborn. I don’t have time to follow silly commands like “take a day off once a week” or “wear tassels to remember your commands”. I want to live life MY way, not yours. What do you say to that?

Y: Anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

SHOULD WE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS AND FOLLOW THE LAW?

 

The example above is obviously a cutesy way of saying it, but those are the exact words of Yeshua copied from the NIV version of Matthew 5:17-19. So yes, according to the Word (Torah), we should be keeping Torah.

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Matthew 7:13

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BET YOUR ETERNITY ON YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD ΠΛΗΡΌΩ (FULFILL)?

 

We’re saved by faith, but as Yeshua told us in Matthew 5:19, those who do the commands and teach others to do so will be great in the Kingdom of Heaven. So be great! Do the commands (until Heaven and Earth pass away of course). I’m not sure why there is even a debate here. Yeshua lived a perfect life and fulfilled Torah to its fullest extent. If you choose a different definition of “fulfill,” then I would suggest that you are ignoring the context of the verse entirely. He literally tells us that the Law isn’t going away until Heaven and Earth pass away in the very next verse. So in my opinion, go ahead and cross off “complete” as an option to define the word “fulfill.” One of the things people seem to forget is that the context surrounding a verse is what gives the meaning. So what does “fulfillment” mean in this case? (feel free to look it up https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=g4137) He obeyed the law perfectly all the days of his life. Not an ounce of sin. So if you transgress the Law you are sinning. But Paul teaches us in Romans 6:1-2:

1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

And then in Romans 3:31:

Do we, then, nullify the Law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

So to recap,

  • Yeshua says we should keep the commands
  • Yeshua says the Law isn’t going away until Heaven and Earth pass away
  • Paul taught that those following “the way” establish the law
  • Paul taught that we shouldn’t sin, and we know that sin is transgression of the law (1 John 3:4)

Where did we learn that we shouldn’t follow the law?

3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.

How did Jesus live? He was from the tribe of Yahuda (Judah). He followed Torah perfectly without screwing up even once. So is John saying “We should abandon Torah, but still live as Yeshua lived”? No! He absolutely is not saying that. He is literally saying:

Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.

And Yeshua lived in full observance of Torah. I just don’t see how there is any other way to interpret this. Also one needs to remember that Jews are not Israel. Yahuah gave all of his followers the Law not just the tribe of Yahuda. Yeshua taught from the old testament and to keep Torah (Mat 5:17), Paul taught to keep Torah, but also taught us the WEIGHT of one command vs another in the context of people you are trying to bring the Messiah. Paul’s teachings are amazing, but he is the ONLY apostle that comes with a warning label from Peter (2 Peter 3:15-16).

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Do people distort Paul’s words and follow Torah, or do they twist Paul’s words and abandon Torah? It’s one or the other. But back to Mat 5:17, there are 2 classes of people. Those who keep the commands and those who don’t. I choose to follow the words of Messiah AND the words of Paul because they are in perfect harmony. “There is no Jew or Greek…”

WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL AT JERUSALEM HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE LAW FOR NEW BELIEVERS?

 

James is pretty clear on this in Acts 15:19-21

“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

In other words, you should IMMEDIATELY stop eating food polluted by idols, meat of strangled animals, blood, and  cease sexual immorality. These were all pagan traditions at the time, and rather than become circumcised immediately upon conversion, these 4 commands were what James deemed most important for a day 1 convert. But the part people seem to ignore is where he says:

“For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.“

What does he mean by this? Clearly he is saying: “The Law of Moses is preached every week and they will hear the Law and do it eventually. So stop worrying about circumcision right now, just worry about the pagan stuff.”

26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?

Hebrews 10:26-29

 

Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Elohim and the belief of יהושע

Revelation 14:12

Dave

IN the summer of 2019, I was seated in the wine cellar of a walled Medieval town high above the Dordogne Valley of France, not far from Sarlat-la-Canéda, making phone calls, writing reports. I have given this story in other places and it appears as though you’re about to hear it again. Rob Skiba is a name you that you might be familiar with. Though he had made a name for himself as a Nephilim researcher, more recently Rob had taken a dive into the deep end of the pool via flat earth research. The recorded interviews I conducted between he and Rick Hummer, a fellow flat earth investigator and close friend of his, was published while still occupying that very wine cellar. Read all about it. Chicago Is Not a Mirage.

Word quickly spread. Within a few short weeks, dozens of flat earth researchers began accepting my invite for a private interview, if not a series of interviews. From a 17th-century tower built by King Louis XIV, and with a stunning view of the Alps, I sat down with Robbie Davidson, founder of the Flat Earth International Conferences, conducting multiple sessions. While staying in Dumfries, Scotland, David Weiss agreed to take part in the interviews, as did Bob Knodel of Globebusters. There were others. But when I asked the interviewees to discuss the moments that shaped their lives, among the many PSYOPs, false flag attacks, and hoaxes that were discussed, only these men committed commentary to the false 9/11 narrative.

The resulting recordings ballooned into The Unexpected Cosmology, a book which became a website and was even intended as an anthology. And of course, the following discourse was originally a chapter. It was Walt Disney who stated, “Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world.” Those sentiments remain applicable here as well. American Sensationalism: The 9/11 Interviews was always intended to be expanded upon with the inclusion of new researchers. So I’m sorry to say the project became stagnant during the Covid-19 psychodrama. I took a break to tackle other projects. We lost Rob Skiba. Rob offered hours of private conversation regarding his life but we never got around to the big one. 9/11. It was in the cards. Sadly, Bob Knodel died soon afterwards. Voices are being squeezed from an entire generation. Gnosis passes with them.

In the aftermath, the FE community became fractured. People began going their separate ways. Robbie Davidson, among a noted few others who were interviewed for the project, got up and left the movement altogether. It is not my intent to erase his or the contributions of others if only brief. They came, they went, their testimonies remain.

The original vision may have hit roadblocks but it is not forgotten. I expanded this paper a few years later to include testimony from author Pauly Hart, a dear friend of mine. I had wanted to continue that trend every year thereafter but you know how it goes. For the 25th anniversary of the attack I have redirected my efforts to its first large scale expansion, including Andrew Hoy and Darrin Geisinger into the mix. Perhaps others will lend their experiences to the recorder in time.

The following is their report.

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